From jrvalverde at cnb.uam.es Thu Jan 10 21:37:05 2008 From: jrvalverde at cnb.uam.es (Jose R. Valverde) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:37:05 +0100 Subject: [TUHS] tropix Message-ID: <20080110123705.12791898@veda.cnb.uam.es> Looking at the UNIX tree chart as I do from time to time to re-search for old UNIX, I came this time over TROPIX, which is a UNIX-like system developed from scratch on Brazil in their "IT cold war" times. The system is now open source and can be found at http://allegro.nce.ufrj.br/tropix/index.html the pages are in Portuguese (sic) but one may get install media and the full source code (Código Fonte). I wonder it if would be sensible to store a copy of it on TUHS as well. In any case, I've added it to the collection at ftp://ftp.es.embnet.org/pub/misc/os/UNIX/tropix I've run it on QEMU and it's got a somewhat distinctive look and feel (and command set). Curious to say the least. The major drawback is that it is all in Portuguese. j -- These opinions are mine and only mine. Hey man, I saw them first! José R. Valverde De nada sirve la Inteligencia Artificial cuando falta la Natural -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From grog at FreeBSD.org Sun Jan 13 13:41:17 2008 From: grog at FreeBSD.org (Greg 'groggy' Lehey) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:41:17 +1100 Subject: [TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <20071227101441.GA28854@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20071227020800.GH6651@bitmover.com> <20071227031755.GA9570@anteil.com> <20071227033921.GA7053@bitmover.com> <20071227101441.GA28854@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20080113034117.GN60332@dereel.lemis.com> On Thursday, 27 December 2007 at 11:14:42 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 07:39:22PM -0800 .. >> It's not me, it's all of you. OSL has a gigabit link to the net if I >> recall correctly. But I don't think TUHS needs that. There are only >> so many of us old farts. But fast is nice. >> >> I do think that there is a _huge_ amount of value in the TUHS archive. >> I think that anyone I hire who has not wandered through there, should. >> >> Anyhoo, I'm pinging the OSL guys, I suspect that they will be cool about >> hosting a mirror, they have been way cool in the past. For that matter, >> they'd host www.tuhs.org but I suspect Warren may not be cool with that. >> Dunno. I can arrange introductions, they are a cool group, this is a >> cool group, who knows? > > Hm.. if all else fails we could check if ftp.freebsd.org would be available > to mirror. Grog, Warner, what do you think? (sorry for the slow response) I seem to have lost some messages, so I'm not longer sure what Larry's suggesting to mirror. Also it's not as if I have much to say for the FreeBSD project any more, though I'm surprised imp didn't say anything. Isn't this a matter for the FreeBSD core team and whoever is running ftp.freebsd.org at the moment? I certainly don't see any obvious reason why not. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available URL: From imp at bsdimp.com Sun Jan 13 16:25:12 2008 From: imp at bsdimp.com (M. Warner Losh) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:25:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <20080113034117.GN60332@dereel.lemis.com> References: <20071227033921.GA7053@bitmover.com> <20071227101441.GA28854@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20080113034117.GN60332@dereel.lemis.com> Message-ID: <20080112.232512.-399282796.imp@bsdimp.com> In message: <20080113034117.GN60332 at dereel.lemis.com> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: : On Thursday, 27 December 2007 at 11:14:42 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: : > Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 07:39:22PM -0800 .. : >> It's not me, it's all of you. OSL has a gigabit link to the net if I : >> recall correctly. But I don't think TUHS needs that. There are only : >> so many of us old farts. But fast is nice. : >> : >> I do think that there is a _huge_ amount of value in the TUHS archive. : >> I think that anyone I hire who has not wandered through there, should. : >> : >> Anyhoo, I'm pinging the OSL guys, I suspect that they will be cool about : >> hosting a mirror, they have been way cool in the past. For that matter, : >> they'd host www.tuhs.org but I suspect Warren may not be cool with that. : >> Dunno. I can arrange introductions, they are a cool group, this is a : >> cool group, who knows? : > : > Hm.. if all else fails we could check if ftp.freebsd.org would be available : > to mirror. Grog, Warner, what do you think? : : (sorry for the slow response) I seem to have lost some messages, so : I'm not longer sure what Larry's suggesting to mirror. Also it's not : as if I have much to say for the FreeBSD project any more, though I'm : surprised imp didn't say anything. Isn't this a matter for the : FreeBSD core team and whoever is running ftp.freebsd.org at the : moment? I certainly don't see any obvious reason why not. Before I could say something, it sounded like Larry had the mirrors he needed. Warner From wes.parish at paradise.net.nz Thu Jan 31 18:35:51 2008 From: wes.parish at paradise.net.nz (Wesley Parish) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:35:51 +1300 Subject: [TUHS] Banyan Vines? Banyan/ePresence dissolves self Message-ID: <200801312135.52821.wes.parish@paradise.net.nz> I was reading Graklaw for more-of-the-same - boneheaded companies taking on productive people with intent to reduce dangerous productivity in favour of monopolizing transaction tokens ie, money - and I came across the article on some_bright_spark suing some other company for daring to try protecting networks from email-borne spam: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080125135544713 Which got me thinking - Banyan Vines was a player back then, and the comments mentioned only Novell. Surely there's something about Banyan's Vines? I did a google search and found this: http://www.bizjournals.com/masshightech/stories/2007/12/24/daily7.html?ana=from_rss Wednesday, December 26, 2007 Liquidating ePresence distributes cash Mass High Tech: The Journal of New England Technology Framingham's ePresence Inc. reports a plan to distribute cash to its shareholders as part of its dissolution plan. The distribution of $3.6 million, or 14 cents per common share, is expected to be paid this week to those who were ePresence shareholders as of June 23, 2004. The distribution, combined with the previous distributions totaling $4.15 per share, would return a total $4.29 per share to ePresence shareholders, company officials said. EPresence was launched in 1983 as Banyan Systems, selling a network operating system and directory. But competitors such as Novell Inc. and Microsoft Corp. subsequently moved into that market and Banyan switched focus in 1997. In 2003, ePresence sold it services business to Unisys Corp. for $11.5 million. In 2004, the company sold its online telephone directory division Switchboard Inc. to Bellevue, Wash.-based InfoSpace Inc. for $160 million. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who would one need to get in touch with, to ask about the possibility of getting the various obsolete Banyan Vines bits and pieces donated to TUHS? (It was based on a Unix kernel, so I would say it - one of the first NOSes to have a directory - should be part of the TUHS repository.) Thanks Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish ----- Gaul is quartered into three halves. Things which are impossible are equal to each other. Guerrilla warfare means up to their monkey tricks. Extracts from "Schoolboy Howlers" - the collective wisdom of the foolish. ----- Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people. From andreww at datanet.ab.ca Thu Jan 31 18:56:26 2008 From: andreww at datanet.ab.ca (Andrew Warkentin) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:56:26 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] Banyan Vines? Banyan/ePresence dissolves self In-Reply-To: <200801312135.52821.wes.parish@paradise.net.nz> References: <200801312135.52821.wes.parish@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <47A18D3A.5090401@datanet.ab.ca> Wesley Parish wrote: >Who would one need to get in touch with, to ask about the possibility of >getting the various obsolete Banyan Vines bits and pieces donated to TUHS? >(It was based on a Unix kernel, so I would say it - one of the first NOSes to >have a directory - should be part of the TUHS repository.) > > Wasn't it based on System V? Wouldn't that prevent it from being released? (unless they made a similar deal with AT&T to the one Sun made, which is very unlikely)